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UNISYS CORP (UIS)·Q2 2025 Earnings Summary
Executive Summary
- Q2 2025 delivered sequential improvement and modest YoY growth: revenue $483.3M (+1.1% YoY; +11.8% QoQ), non-GAAP operating margin 7.6% (+150 bps YoY), and adjusted EBITDA margin 12.7% (+50 bps YoY), with strength in License & Support (L&S) and DWS offsetting CA&I softness .
- Guidance mix-shift: midpoint for constant-currency revenue tempered to flat (-1.0% to +1.0%) while full-year non-GAAP operating margin raised to 8.0–9.0 (prior 6.5–8.5); L&S outlook lifted to ~$430M (from $410M) .
- Capital structure/pension de-risking: $700M notes due 2031 refinanced 2027 notes; $250M discretionary U.S. pension contribution and asset allocation changes meaningfully reduce contribution volatility; liquidity extended, ABL revolver renewed to 2030 .
- Estimate beats: Revenue beat consensus ($483.3M vs $444.7M*) and non-GAAP EPS beat (-$0.285* est. vs $0.19 actual); management flagged some Q2 pull-forward of Q3 L&S hardware/integrated systems .
- Near-term catalysts: margin guidance raise and pension strategy clarity; watch Q3 L&S timing (guide ~$95M) and XL&S ~$390M with a stronger Q4 inflection implied .
What Went Well and What Went Wrong
What Went Well
- L&S outperformed on consumption and timing: $87.6M revenue (+6.7% YoY), GP% 68.8% (up 100 bps YoY); management: “continued strong consumption in our License and Support solutions” .
- DWS stabilized and grew: $138.1M revenue (+4.5% YoY), GP% 16.9% (+70 bps YoY), aided by delivery improvements and higher infrastructure field services volumes .
- Profitability improved: operating margin 6.3% (+140 bps YoY) and non-GAAP operating margin 7.6% (+150 bps YoY), supported by SG&A reduction and efficiency initiatives including AI .
- Strategic de-risking: “removed substantially all volatility from our U.S. pension contributions,” extended major debt maturity to 2031, reaffirmed 2026 L&S ~$400M outlook .
What Went Wrong
- CA&I remained soft: $185.2M (-4.5% YoY; -4.9% cc), citing lower public-sector volumes and cautious client funding; profitability held (GP% 20.8%) but growth headwinds persisted .
- Free cash flow negative due to pension funding: FCF -$336.5M vs -$18.5M YoY, driven by $278.2M global pension/postretirement contributions and working capital timing .
- TCV mixed: total company TCV $437M (-5% YoY) on lower Ex-L&S New Business (timing), partially offset by stronger renewals; QoQ total TCV only +1% .
Financial Results
Segment breakdown
L&S vs Ex-L&S
KPIs and cash metrics
Guidance Changes
Earnings Call Themes & Trends
Management Commentary
- CEO: “The investments we made in applying agentic and generative artificial intelligence capabilities to our most innovative solutions are beginning to advance our growth and efficiency priorities as evidenced by our improved profitability and enhanced cash generation.”
- CFO: “Our capital structure transformation removed substantially all volatility from our U.S. pension contributions… extending our only major debt maturity to 2031 and renewing our undrawn asset-backed revolver.”
- CEO on DWS/AI ops: “SEA… harnesses generative and agentic AI, service data analytics, and intelligent workflow automation… seeing end-to-end automation resolution increase from an average of 15% to 40%.”
- CFO on mix and margins: “Second quarter non-GAAP operating profit margin was 7.6%, up from 6.1%… driven by higher L&S revenue, as well as improved operational efficiency.”
Q&A Highlights
- Guidance composition: Tempered revenue outlook driven by macro/public-sector budget uncertainty, backlog ramp timings, and conservative revenue recognition on in-flight contracts; profitability raised on L&S strength and efficiencies .
- DWS volumes: PC services stabilized; higher value infrastructure field services ramping; Windows 11 upgrades contributing; L&S margins ~70% and consumption trend remains strong .
- L&S trajectory/new logos: FY26 L&S ~$400M reiterated; FY25 increased to ~$430M primarily from consumption; pipeline/new logos healthy though signing cycles remain complex .
Estimates Context
Values retrieved from S&P Global*. Note: Company reports both EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA; Q2 2025 adjusted EBITDA was $61.4M . The large beats on revenue and non-GAAP EPS indicate upside vs consensus, while EBITDA definition differences should be considered when comparing to street models.
Key Takeaways for Investors
- Margin story strengthening: non-GAAP operating margin raised to 8–9% for FY25; execution on SG&A reductions and AI-enabled delivery supports upside to profitability mix .
- L&S durability: continued consumption and timing benefits; FY25 L&S ~$430M and FY26 ~$400M guide provide multi-year visibility; watch quarterly timing (hardware/integrated systems) .
- De-risked capital structure: extended maturities to 2031, reduced U.S. pension contribution volatility, and a path to additional annuity purchases; expect non-cash settlement loss if executed .
- Near-term cadence: Q3 guide implies softer YoY revenue (low single-digit decline) with mid-single-digit non-GAAP op margin, and strong Q4 inflection driven by L&S and upfront components on signings .
- CA&I recovery to monitor: pipeline strengthening (incl. higher education/public sector), but conversion pacing remains sensitive to macro decision cycles .
- Cash flow context: Q2 FCF was heavily impacted by discretionary pension funding; FY25 pre-pension FCF guide ~$110M suggests underlying cash generation resilience .
- Trading implications: Beat on Q2 revenue/EPS vs consensus and margin guide raise are positive catalysts; stock path likely hinges on confidence in Q4 L&S ramp and continued delivery of AI-driven efficiencies .